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Last post 12-29-2008, 8:15 AM by ayheng. 80 replies.
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  •  06-17-2008, 12:09 AM 16046 in reply to 16045

    Re: Angkor Wat retreat?

    Can confirm me.Thumbs Up [thumbsup]


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  •  06-17-2008, 3:48 AM 16047 in reply to 16046

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    offers sounds good. I think i'll take it (...since A.Jolie has been bugging me to secretly met her there...)
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  •  06-17-2008, 7:27 AM 16050 in reply to 16047

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    Updating this with Angkor visit tips (from Google)

    RE: Is it possible travel to the temples from Siem reap by bicycle?
    Posted: Mon December 25, 2006 03:36 AM UTC

    Yes very possible. There are two circuits you can go around one is 17km the other 25km the road is very flat. You can also cycle out to the Rouluos group and Angkor Krom. I think there are plenty of places renting bicycles, I got one for $5 for three days. for the further out temples and Kbal Spean you will need a moto. I can't remember if I had a lock with my bike or not, probably. In any case the vendors will be happy to mind your bike while you go for a look-see. 
     
    Posted: Mon December 25, 2006 05:36 AM UTC
    Bicycle is one way, but there are tons of buildings inclusive in the Ankor Wat complex. i did it by hiring a motor bike. it was cheap, effecient and i was still tired at the end of the day. We took a second day to make it to the far away temples. There is a lot of ground to cover, so i would give a second thought to a motorbike hire. A guide will drive, you just sit on the back. also, these are more like mopeds than motorcycles.
     
    Posted: Mon December 25, 2006 11:51 AM UTC
    Hi, Just got back from there on the 21st. Yes it possible for you to visit the temples by bicycle. You can rent a bike from your Hotel, and if you rent a motor-bicycle (not a motorbike) its a bicycle with motor, you can park them at designated spots just outside the temples. They are there for rented bikes to park. As for normal bicycles, dont worry..just park it at the shops outside the temples..and have a drink at the shop later...they would be more than happy to takecare of the bike.
     
    I agree for Bantey Samre,Bantey Seri and Kabal Spean(1000 Lingas) you would need transport....its too far for your to cycle...unless you are the tour de france type.
     
    The weather now is kinda cool even in the afternoon.


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  •  06-17-2008, 7:38 AM 16051 in reply to 16050

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    Posted: Thu December 7, 2006 10:19 PM UTC

    Kirby, along with the driver's information that we use and recomend highly (has all the knowledge you're looking for), we also recomend an Aspara show, close to the hotel we stayed at. It was great being able to watch the amazing dancing and they also include a wonderful all you can eat meal.
     
    Posted: Tue December 12, 2006 04:26 PM UTC
    Yes, that was the rate (US20/day) when we were there last year. I also tipped him an additional $5.00/day for the two of us as he ran us around all day. You will definetely need a driver. Temples are very far in between. You cannot walk, especially with a 60yo in tow between temples. They look close together on a map but the distances are great.
     
    I agree you do not need a guide, reading and hanging around other guides if they are available (eavesdropping) - which is not ethically correct but, oh well, is sufficient. Your driver, if he's as good as ours, has all the basic knowledge you should need.
     
    Posted: Wed December 13, 2006 07:12 AM UTC
    Travelshoe,

    Tuk-tuks are a great way to get around, but with 4 people you will need either two tuk-tuks or one taxi. Tuk-tuks are slightly more bumpy, but certainly much more fun. If you are looking for a tuk-tuk, I can recommend the driver we had last week - Sokhom (miek_sokhom@yahoo.com, +855 12 83 1817). Sokhom speaks good English, and was very reliable. He will accomodate your wishes and we were very pleased with his service.
     
    Posted: Wed December 13, 2006 09:58 AM UTC
    Hi there,
     
    I have to agree with the rest of the folks here that taking hiring a driver and car is the best way to go. Since you're travelling with ladies, I would definitely recommend a nice 4wd or the very least, a Toyota Camry . Well, at least that's what I did with my diva friends. We paid USD20 a day. We didn't want a tuk tuk, we reckon that with the poor roads and terrible tuk tuk suspension would drive us nuts.
     
    I don't you'll face any difficulty getting a driver over there. Every hotel/guest house has a recommended list and generally, most drivers have a basic knowledge of the temples and nice places to eat. Just point to note, most places allow the drivers to eat for free ( as part of their commission ) so do a gd deed and ask your driver to recommend those eateries for you.
     
    Btw, there's this great eatery that goes by the name of MOM BAYON. It's very famous and most drivers know where it is. Try the mango shake when you're there.
     
    And apsara dancers, I can't recommend Grand Hotel D'Angkor (owned by the Singapore Raffles Hotel Mgt) enough. The dancers ( from the local orphanage ) are very highly skilled and well trained. During the peak season, the hotel organises a good al fresco buffet and dance performance. The price is a bit on the high side but go for it if you're want to give your mom a treat:) And yes, order the Singapore Sling while you're there, it tastes better there somehow ( take my word for it, I'm Singaporean)
     
    Posted: Wed December 13, 2006 07:46 AM UTC
    yes, i advice you to get a driver. you may opt to hire a camri taxi for your day trips. the rate now is from USD20-25 per day. taxi is comfortable especially if you have your mom travelling with you.
     
    the driver that we met is also good and trustworthy. he will suggest a good place for you to visit and were to eat...his name is pov. you may have his contact number here http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/77003/64a/9/  
     
    enjoy your trip to siem reap! 


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  •  06-17-2008, 7:48 AM 16052 in reply to 16051

    Re: Angkor Wat retreat?

    Travel guides with plenty of links
    http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Asia/Cambodia/Khett_Siem_Reab/Angkor_Wat-1202517/TravelGuide-Angkor_Wat.html
     

    RE: What time does it open?
    Posted: Thu November 30, 2006 08:41 AM UTC

    I'm not sure what time it opens at but you can go out to do sunrise which is quite popular. We were lucky enough to go out for sunrise and have an almost clear sky in November 2005 which meant being picked up at about 5:30 - 5:45am and sunrise was around 6:15am (I think). At that time there are probably a few hundred visitors but it is still the quietest time to go. Using imaginative angles can often help with reducing the number of people in photographs.
     
    Posted: Fri December 1, 2006 04:59 AM UTC
    Yes, tons of people show up for sunrise, and expect that crowds will be larger at this time of year. But shortly after sunrise the majority of them leave the complex. So, the rest of the morning is relatively quiet - unless the busloads of Japanese package tourists arrive. Late afternoon is also a busy time.
     


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  •  06-19-2008, 10:41 PM 16068 in reply to 16052

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    Cmun,

    kindly suggest what kind of shots we need (apart from the Super Soldier Serum)...
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  •  06-23-2008, 12:17 AM 16079 in reply to 16068

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    http://www.canbypublications.com/cambodia/visas.htm#Vaccinations

    I  recommend the Hepatitis A(3 doses) , Cholera and Thyphoid Vaccines to prevent food borne diseases. Oral Malaria Prophylaxis highly recommended. 


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  •  06-23-2008, 2:53 PM 16083 in reply to 16052

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    One of a well recommended hotel that's not expensive is the Queen Villa Angkor Hotel, around USD20-25/nite. Standard room comes with 21" TV, aircon, and private bath. Does not look like they've broadband but they offer pickup from airport. Comes with a nice swimming pool and offers free buffet breakfast.

    Website: Queen Villa Angkor (pic see below)

    Another nice hotel is Princess Angkor Hotel, more costly at USD55/nite. This has gym/fitness center and even broadband in their suite (that's USD100 oops)

    Website: Princess Angkor Hotel

    Need to find out which one is closer to where we wanna go... but this is how Princess Angkor looks like...

    .. and the swimming pool in Princess Angkor

    So nice.. I think wat we do is we stay at Queen Villa then pop over to all these beautiful hotels to take pictures!!

    Here's a pic of one of the zippiest hotel in angkor (at USD190/nite no joke la) - the Hotel de la Paix

    More pics of Hotel de la Paix here...



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  •  07-08-2008, 1:24 AM 16154 in reply to 16083

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    All the hostels suggested here are recommended by Lonely Planet, not reviewed yet though.

    Image 1 Siem Riep Hostel - Clean, bunk beds from USD 8.

    Image 1     Image 3 

    ^ Happy Guest House, from USD 6.

    Image 1  Image 2 

     Image 5

    ^ Khmer Inn Angkor, from USD 9.71 ( wierd, why the 71 cents ? )

    http://hotels.lonelyplanet.com/hotel/?SearchDetails=I2008.11.18!2008.11.25!!4445078!2810!-1!10000!7!-1!-1!-1!-1!-1!-1!13.50.50!!!57.59.27.4.52!!1!17!1!0!&PreviousSearchId=4445078&TargetHotelId=-1&SubmitDates=False&VAError=-2147483648&IsSubmit=False


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  •  07-14-2008, 12:42 AM 16168 in reply to 16154

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    For backpackers, Siem Riep Hostel has an amazing 94% review and most recommended by the travellers from Hostelworld.com. 95% in cleanliness and 97% for staff service. All others such as character of the accomodation, security, fun, location are rated above 92% and more.

    Photos of The Siem Reap Hostel

    The Siem Reap Hostel has been reviewed 140 times by Hostelworld.com customers.The average rating is calculated from customer ratings in the last 6 months.

    About The Siem Reap Hostel
    The newest Hostel built in Cambodia, specially designed
    by travellers for travellers.
    The Siem Reap Hostel is a clean and luxurious hostel at backpacker prices, featuring private and dorm rooms. All are ensuite! We also have 6 communal areas, restauraunt, bar and the only indoor swimming pool in Siem Reap.

    It is owned and operated by Australian, Cambodian and British nationals, all of whom are experienced travellers who know how to cater for weary legs, dry mouths and rumbling tummies after a day of adventure.

    The atmosphere is laid back with opportunites for relaxation, but should you want some excitement, there are various themes and activites available throughout the week. Our sound system and big screen tv are in our bar area where we screen special events and movies. We also have a free computer/internet room.

    The Hostel backs onto the serene setting of the Wat Damnak Temple and is only one block away from the Old Market and the town centre making it the ideal location for exploring Siem Reap.


     


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  •  08-19-2008, 12:51 AM 16273 in reply to 16168

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    Apparently I was informed the Cambodian Govn intend to "close" Angkor Wat; not sure if it was closing down temporarily to facilitate rebuilding or permanently to preserve this heritage.


    Tourist invasion threatens to ruin glories of Angkor Wat

    Justine Smith in Siem Reap
    The Observer, Sunday February 25 2007

    It has survived the collapse of the sophisticated civilisation that built it, centuries of consumption by the suffocating jungle and the nihilism of the Khmer Rouge, who beheaded its stone Buddhas and used its walls for target practice. Now, Cambodia's awe-inspiring Angkor Wat complex is facing the biggest threat in a millennium - the fastest-growing tourist onslaught of any World Heritage site, which conservationists warn is already damaging its treasures irreparably.

    In 1993, after Angkor was added to Unesco's World Heritage List, just 7,650 intrepid visitors ventured to the site. Last year Sokimex, the oil company controversially granted the entrance concession on behalf of the government's Apsara Angkor management, sold almost 900,000 tickets worth $25m (£12.8m), with British travellers making up the fourth biggest contingent behind South Koreans, Japanese and North Americans. Three million visitors are expected in 2010.

    Teruo Jinnai, Unesco's top official at Angkor, said: 'We are very concerned by this unprecedented, uncontrolled acceleration, which is damaging the monuments and the local environment. Preservation of the park for future generations has to be the number one priority, over and above commercial exploitation, which is mainly benefiting foreign interests instead of the local population.' Kerya Chau Sun, director of tourism at Angkor, said: 'We are finalising regulations for controlling visitors. We will train guards to watch the temples and educate visitors to help us protect the monuments.'

    However, John Stubbs, who has spent 15 years working at Angkor with the New York-based World Monuments Fund, said: 'Tourism is already out of control, and unless the Cambodian government takes some pretty radical action to rein it in now much of Angkor's magic and heritage could be lost forever.' The five-tiered Phnom Bakheng hilltop temple, one of the most significant relics of the ancient Khmer civilisation, is one of the most endangered of the park's 40-plus monuments. More than 3,000 tourists clamber up its narrow stone staircases every evening, manhandling sandstone carvings as they jostle for a sunset view of Angkor Wat, the world's biggest religious structure. Stubbs said: 'It simply cannot survive this daily assault. Unless it is completely closed off for essential repairs, Phnom Bakheng will suffer critical damage.'

    The World Bank warns that other temples, including the spectacular Bayon with four-faced Buddhas carved on its 54 towers, are sinking into their sandy foundations as the hospitality industry drains underground water reservoirs.

    Meanwhile, the site's serenity is being overwhelmed by crass commercialisation, from the Las Vegas-style shopping malls in the mushrooming town, Siem Reap, to a gaudy Angkor theme park just outside the complex. In May a Nick Faldo-designed golf course opens, the second water-guzzling 18-holer to be built in two years within four miles of the park. And the area's water supplies are being polluted by hotels flushing untreated sewage into the flood-prone Siem Reap river.

    So can the well-meaning traveller experience the splendours of Angkor without contributing to its decline? Jarrod Kyte, UK manager of Gecko's Adventures, which offers an eco-tour helping clean up rubbish at the site, said: 'We train local guides to make sure our clients know exactly how to dress and behave and we use locally owned restaurants and hotels.'

    Sam Morton, 40, from Brighton, planned to stay in Siem Reap for five days - but stayed on to work with deprived children at the Volunteer Development Poverty Children School run by two young Buddhist monks. She said: 'Working in the school was incredibly rewarding and I at least felt I was giving something back.' The director and co-founder of the school, the Venerable Nn Rathana, said: 'By just taking one afternoon to volunteer and make a small donation, foreigners can make a real difference.'

    Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/25/travel.travelnews



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  •  08-19-2008, 1:05 AM 16275 in reply to 16273

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    Heritage site in peril: Angkor Wat is falling down

    One of the world's most celebrated temples is threatened with oblivion, as its ancient stones crumble from the sheer weight of tourism. Rob Sharp reports from Cambodia on a cultural jewel that has become too popular for its own good

    Friday, 14 March 2008

    At first glance, it is business as usual at the great sandstone temple of Angkor Wat. Through a drape of evening haze, the ancient Cambodian superstructure sees another batch of tourists process across its moat and marvel at its grandeur. Local teenagers waggle cool drinks in the faces of passers-by and auto-rickshaw or "tuk-tuk" drivers loudly vie for business. It looks like what it is – a boom town.

    But the modern commercial success of the high-profile complex, on the site of the ancient city of Angkor, may be – literally – on shaky ground.

    According to heritage experts carrying out restoration work at the temple, which is one of the biggest sets of religious ruins in the world, a plethora of new hotels, cashing in on the country's near-exponential rise in tourist numbers, is sapping gallons of water from beneath nearby urban areas. They say this could upset the delicate foundations on which Angkor Wat sits and could lead to parts of it – including its famous celestial apsara, or carved nymphs – taking an unheavenly tumble to earth.

    Philippe Delanghe, the culture programme specialist at Unesco's Phnom Penh office, said this week: "There is a very important balance between the sand and water on which the temple is built. And if that balance is taken away then we might have trouble with collapse.

    "The growth in the number of hotels around Angkor Wat has meant that more and more holes are being drilled into the earth to extract water from the water table. And this has profound consequences for this important mix.

    "We saw something similar with the weakening of the stability of ruins in Indonesia two years ago, and there is the possibility that we will see something like this here." Mr Delanghe added that the long-term consequences of unstable ground beneath the monument could include cracked ceilings and falling pillars. "If it becomes so damaged then we will have no tourists," he added.

    Locally, it is easy to see why comments such as these go down as badly as, say, a tumbling nymph. The temple, which is venerated enough to appear on the national flag, is the jewel in Cambodia's heritage crown. Not only is it in the best condition of any such structure at the Angkor site: it has been tightly linked with Cambodia's history for nearly a millennium. It is thought to have been built as a funerary temple for King Suryavarman II (who died in 1152) to honour Vishnu, the Hindu deity with whom he identified. The sandstone blocks from which it was constructed were quarried more than 30 miles away and floated down the Siem Reap river. Recent research suggests that Angkor – of which this temple was surely the centrepiece – was an urban settlement that covered some 700 square miles, comparable in size to Greater London, and therefore the world's largest medieval city.

    With cultural attractions like this, it is little wonder that tourism is such an important source of revenue for the impoverished and (until 10 years ago) war-blighted nation. In many parts of Cambodia, a £100 annual income is still enough to live on.

    In 1993, when Angkor was first added to Unesco's World Heritage List, the militant Khmer Rouge were still active in certain areas. Just 7,600 souls ventured to the temple complex that year. Since then, however, Cambodia has become "safe" in the eyes of the international community, and package tours have landed in fleets. In 2007, about two million tourists visited Cambodia, with half stopping at Angkor Wat. With tourist traffic continuing to increase by about 20 per cent year on year, some three million people are expected to visit the country in 2010. The temple has become a must-see stop on any tour of south-east Asia.

    Such popularity is, clearly, a mixed blessing. At the nearby town of Siem Reap, there are now hundreds of garish hotels and guest-houses, with many more in the pipeline. Wealthy travellers can stay in the centrally located Le Meridien, replete with its Romanesque swimming pool, for about $300 (£150) a night, before heading out for a swift nine holes at the Nick Faldo-designed Angkor Golf Resort. Most of the restaurants serve Western food, and the Associated Press has reported that several notable old buildings have been razed to the ground to make room for fresh accommodation. "The identity Siem Reap had for centuries is gradually disappearing, or maybe almost disappeared," Teruo Jinnai, the director of Unesco's office in Cambodia, said recently. "You have restaurants, massage parlours, hotels, and it's very sad to see that." The crowds also take their toll on the local built heritage. "Pollution from buses, which often leave their engines running to supply air conditioning, will cause darkening of the stone," said Mr Delanghe. Further to this, the five-tiered Phnom Bakheng hilltop temple, an important relic of the ancient Khmer civilisation like Angkor Wat, sees some 3,000 tourists climb up its narrow stone staircases every evening. At its summit people can view a picturesque sunset over Angkor Wat. But on the way there, the punters are wearing through its precious sandstone carvings, which they use as handholds during the climb. John Stubbs, of the World Monuments Fund, said last year: "It simply cannot survive this daily assault. Unless it is completely closed off for essential repairs, Phnom Bakheng will suffer critical damage."

    The growth of Siem Reap is causing other problems, too. "This tremendous growth added to population increase has been exacerbating pressure on infrastructure," a 2005 World Bank report said. "Energy, water, sewage and waste are all significant problems... Most guesthouses reportedly dump used water directly into the river, causing noticeable river pollution." E. coli, the bacteria found in human faeces, has begun seeping into local wells.

    Sadly, the most high-profile victim of Cambodia's success in tourism could well be Angkor Wat itself. The World Bank report added that "one of Angkor's temples is reportedly falling into a sinkhole, suggesting that the underground aquifers may be rapidly disappearing". The monument in question was the Bayon temple, famous for the delicate faces carved on to its 54 towers. It is reportedly still collapsing into the sandy ground and visitors can observe its sinking foundations and widening cracks. The cultural specialists now claim that if it is happening there, it could happen anywhere.

    Mr Jinnai said this week: "Test wells have conclusively proven that the ground water level is definitely lowering in Siem Reap town. While it is not yet considered at a dangerous level, if the water intake doubles or triples then it is going to get really dangerous around the city and this could well affect historic monuments such as Angkor Wat in the long term."

    And even the former Japanese ambassador Fumiaki Takahashi, who during his recently ended tenure, bemoaned the lack of control surrounding water extraction in Siem Reap. It was the Cambodian government's "urgent task" to control such things, he explained, because "if you take too much water, it might affect the Angkor site. In the long run, the underground water will go down and the site would sink."

    Soeung Kong, deputy director general of the Aspara Authority, which oversees Angkor's upkeep, has urged people to keep a level head about this potential damage. He told Agence France Press: "The harm to the temples is unavoidable. We are trying to keep that harm to a minimal level."

    The Japan International Cooperation Agency (Jica) is collaborating with Unesco over recommendations for water management. One Jica report has suggested the removal of underground water from near Phnom Kraom, a hill near the edge of the Tonle Sap lake about 7.4 miles to the south, as an alternative to the town's own groundwater. The plan has won the backing of Cambodia's deputy tourism minister, Thong Khon.

    Another solution put forward is the promotion of temples away from Angkor Wat, to relieve the pressure on it. This will be helped as infrastructure networks are built, such as a new road to Koh Ker, which boasts a collection of temples and towers to the north of Siem Reap. Another idea being considered by officials would be to limit access to the temple compound using a reservation system; such solutions would at least minimise the risks of direct damage by tourists.

    Any of these systems could combine well with Heritage Watch, which promotes sustainable tourism in Siem Reap. The organisation certifies local companies as "heritage-friendly" or not. Such a label indicates the adherence to such things as clean environmental policies, support for the local economy, or contributions toward preservation. But overall, Mr Delanghe stressed that much more research was necessary before any particular path could be backed.

    Unesco is due to come up with its final suggestions for the future in May. In all likelihood these recommendations, Mr Delanghe said, would include the suggested assembly of a central database to monitor the amount of water being extracted in Siem Reap. "As long as we don't have the data we don't know what is going on," he warned.

    But back at Angkor Wat, we do. Dusk has fully descended. Tourists are being expelled from the site, and are being told, helpfully enough, to stop sitting on the ruins, lest they damage them with their rucksacks. One by one they file out from its inner sanctum: past the Statue of Vishnu, through the suitably gargantuan Elephant Gate, to make their careful way back across the sandstone causeway to the parked cars beyond. For now, the temple's future remains secure. The fleet of vehicles start their engines, fire up their air conditioning, and slowly make their way back to the growing sea of neon that is Siem Reap.

    Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/heritage-site-in-peril-angkor-wat-is-falling-down-795747.html



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    Boardgame Meetup photos at Flickr
    Angkor Wat blog
  •  08-21-2008, 9:23 PM 16297 in reply to 16273

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    wat the..!!??

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  •  08-25-2008, 11:32 AM 16317 in reply to 16297

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    Appreciate the info. It is disheartening to read of the threats tourists like us are capable of and the erosion of culture, lifestyle and infrastructure all in the name of tourism. Shrapnel, remember not to place your heavy butt and naughty hands on the monuments!Wink [;)]


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  •  08-25-2008, 11:54 PM 16335 in reply to 16317

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    btw I'll be starting to review/finalize accomodation - possiblly going for Queen Angkor Villa (see above) @ USD20/day but it has no internet access Sad [:(]. and also trying to see if I can confirm car hire too.

    It's already Sep so we need to start looking into the logistics.

    cmun, I thot you'd a lady fren who's joining us? Wink [;)]



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